Friday, September 26, 2008

Obama: Licking His Wounds

It sure is a good thing that the Obama campaign lowered expectations for his debate performance starting yesterday and leading into the debate because Obama got his clock cleaned. John McCain was able to get the young inexperienced candidate to look immature and childish. All Obama could do was interrupt with bogus claims of "lying" and looks of frustration and despair.

On Iraq Obama keeps looking to the past instead of the future. McCain understands the next president has to look to the future and secure not only victory but also stabilizing a fledgling democracy. Obama stuck to the Monday morning Quarterbacking by saying the war in Iraq was wrong to begin with. The problem is that two wrongs do not make a right and McCain understands that while Obama embraces the idea that because we may have been wrong in the first place we can be wrong and withdraw and maybe it will be right.

Obama said no less than seven times that he agreed with McCain. Well that should be good for McCain because when McCain is President Obama can work with McCain to get needed reforms through a failed Congress. McCain displayed a thorough knowledge of world affairs. Obama tried to talk in circles and had really no coherent thoughts other than his main talking points from his campaign speech.

Yes it is a good thing Obama lowered expectations. Obama got his clock cleaned but because of the lowered expectations maybe Obama got across the finish line. Obama definitely finished dead last but because of lowered expectations. Bottom line McCain had a great night while Obama is going home licking his wounds.

17 comments:

kester said...

You are, of course, dead wrong here. The post-debate polls already are clearly indicating Obama trounced McCain in the opinion of the American public....McCain wins 45 to 43 percent with men...Obama wins 59 to 31 percent with women? Over 58-years-old-voters say Obama wins?

McCain didn't even hold his base. Your analysis is strictly from Cloud Cuckoo Land.

The Lizard said...

This is due to the lowered expectations. Everyone says this was McCain's turf. Bottom line McCain won and looked presidential. Look at the fox poll and Drudge. McCain wins both. Drudge 70% McCain 28% Obama. Fox 82 % McCain 15 % Obama. No need to look at internals of these polls because Obama was trounced.

kester said...

Fox viewers say McCain won? There's a shocker.

Seriously, I watched the CNN coverage, with the little graph underneath the picture...and consistently, Obama's level of approval was above McCain's, and the white line (independents) tracked the blue line (dems) a lot more often than it tracked the red line (GOP). So I am not surprised to see other, less partisan, pollers show Obama as the winner in the view of the public.

Go ahead. Say it. It won't hurt. "President Obama." See? That wasn't that hard.

Moose said...

You are being delusional if you believe that CNN is objective and that the focus group was not stacked in favor of Obama.

kester said...

The CBS poll of uncommitted voters shows 39 percent Obama, 25 percent McCain.

kester said...

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/26/politics/horserace/entry4482028.shtml

s.b. said...

Obama had to look down to read the soldiers name after the "i gotta bracelete too" comment. Doesn't he wear the bracelete every day? I think that one may have legs.

Anonymous said...

Last I looked, the CNN poll had hundreds of thousands of votes, while the Fox poll had just over 5000.

I'll give the CNN one more credibility.

Anonymous said...

Obama interrupted McCain WAY TOO MUCH. Your opinion is spot on. The interrupting just really got to me. It was plain RUDE. Obama's bracelet moment was really insincere, whereas I felt McCain spoke his words with heart. McCain was classier and his statements regarding foreign policy proved he is far better informed and prepared than Obama. I have named Obama "The Great Interrupter". -Joan Wilder

Anonymous said...

I see way too many people on this board assuming that their perspective is "obvious." Please folks, realize that there are people out there who clearly disagree with you and are going to question your statistics, judgements, inferences et cetera, and that really not a single of you so far has presented a truly defensible case. (I am of course only talking about people making claims as to who "won." Those of you making smaller more reasonable judgements this does not apply to.)

I'll try my hand: At the beginning of this debate, most people expected a very high level of performance from Obama. Perhaps less then the "Second Coming of the Messiah" performance they expected before (big shocker) but still very high expectations. Obama tonight, as far as I could tell from what I watched, held his own and certainly won over the people who had come to see him. But he did not fill the shoes that had been laid out for him, and he came off as much more negative and cynical then he has in the past, which certainly takes a little luster off his varnish.

Meanwhile, McCain, the grand geezer of American politics, pulled off a decent, strong, but not completely defensible performance. He came off as competent, responsible, polite, strong, decisive and courageous, but perhaps not completely on the mark intellectually.

All in all, this was a good night for McCain but he may have to pull off better down the road if he actually wants to win this thing, though he still looks better for having been there tonight. Obama, by comparison, looks a little worse. My Report Card:

Obama C
McCain B

Anonymous said...

Obama won. Polls are all in his favor. McCain was old, angry, hostile and McSame.

Anonymous said...

all these left wingers quoting the numbers of left wing media... yes CNN, NBC, ABC etc... dead journalists who sold themselves to the devil....all of them Pro-Obama with a few soft spanking to Obama when he does really stupid things hoping that no one will realize that they are Pro-Obama. FOX news... only right wing media in play... but anyway, these polls don't matter and Obama will go back to licking his wounds again. fact is he looked LAME...

Anonymous said...

Small thing about polls. If you ask people a question they will often respond with the answer they expected rather then the answer they found. Example: If you play the song "Stairway to Heaven" backwards, some people say it gives a satanic message. Get two groups in two rooms, tell one room what it is supposed to say satanically and the other nothing. The room that you informed will tell you that, indeed, it says that. The one that was not informed will give random answers, many of them nonsensical.

Bottom line, if people were expecting Obama to win the debate, many of them will say he did. The effect isn't quite as strong here because people care a bit more, but some people don't, and they're a substantial group, substantial enough to sway the poll.

Anonymous said...

Hold the heck up!

Those 100s of thousands of respondants are to internet polls.

Daily KOS and the obama campaign have been telliing their many loyal pod people to flood the internet polls and vote obama.

Just because the Incompetant Messiah and his legions of blathering idiots astroturf the polls on CNN ABC NBC MSNBC and btw FOX and are now attacking the Dridge report poll doesnt mean that the truth sheople.

For example fox had an 83% in favor of McCain and as soon as it was anounced over the next hour left wing bloggers were extorting their lackeys to go to fox and vote to change the results.

Fox at last check suddenly was in favor of obama in its internet poll.

THe fact of the matter is Internet polls are not scientific. Its not a legitamate cross-section of the popular opinion, its a cross section of the nerds who actively to to hunt down to poll and vote on it.

Look, i know its incredibly diificult for Most people who have bought into the great Obama lie to understand but just because you say its true doesn't make it so.

Yes we know, Barack Lies about a LOT of things and the MSM gives him a pass, buffs polls for him and fawns upon his historicness of mediocrity. But its still just a sham.

The truth is that McCain cleaned his clock and most koolaid drinking liberals know it but dont want to admit it because they have sold their party and their souls to get this fraud elected.

As a democrat who once strongly supported Senator Obama, before i started investigating and learning exactly who he was and who he wasnt and what he stood for and didnt stand for, i can say with no reservations, that as much as i hate the idea of 4 more years of a republican in the white house, John McCain is the best option, and certainly much much better than 4 years of Jimmy Carter Bush Junior . Barack Obama is a dangerous and disingenious politician with a lack of integrity and experience and we can not trust our country with him. I urge all my fellow democrats to shack off the effects of the hopium and step back before we take our party and our country over the cliff with this rash and incompetant candidate that was selected by a corrupt process that was gamed.

Anonymous said...

McCain Spanked Obama....If Obama said one more time John McCain was right!!! I think Obama is voting for Mccain Making was the adult in the room for sure. Sorry Obama Round 1 John McCain!

Anonymous said...

“ Obama gets The McCain beat down in debate”

No doubt Obama camp is happy they kept lowering expectations for his debate performance because Obama got his clock cleaned by John McCain who kept the young inexperienced candidate looking immature and childish talking in circles. All Obama could do was interrupt with bogus claims of "lying" and looks of frustration and despair. (Not a good performer, unless someone writes a pre-written speech for Obama to study or read on teleprompter) On Iraq and all else, Obama keeps looking to the past instead of the future? Where’s the change Obama? McCain understands the next president has to look to the future and secure not only victory but also stabilizing a fledgling democracy. Obama kept up his all season stupid rhetoric, the war was wrong, the war is wrong, I’m black that makes me qualified to be president!

Especially since he stupidly picked 30 years in Washington, pro war supporter Biden (whose son is a lobbyist) as VP. Slapping the face of 18 million democratic voters, who David Axelrod said he don’t need. Again proves Obama is unstable and does not have the experience to make important decisions or have control over this great country.

Obama said seven times or more that he agreed with McCain. That’s good for McCain because when McCain is President Obama can work with him to get needed reforms through a failed Congress. McCain displayed a thorough knowledge of world affairs. Obama did not! And talked in circles and really had no coherent thoughts other than his main talking points from his pre-written campaign speech.

Bottom line; Obama got “ The McCain beat down” only because of the lowered expectations Obama just barely got across the finish line. Obama definitely finished dead last. No surprise we all know Obama is not good on his feet, as Hillary wiped the floor with him 20 plus times! Bottom line McCain had a great night while Obama is going home licking his wounds. Of course you can expect to hear the tabloid cable news , better known as Obama News Networks CNN & MSNBC media made fairy tales, that he was great, too bad for CNN that voters finally realized these two Obama news networks are not very truthful and bias. They offer voters looking for facts…NOTHING…

Stray Yellar Dawg said...

Memo to Obama:

“I agree with what she said” might be OK when the debate opponant is a member of your own party.

“I agree with what he said” is not so good… when the opponant is, in your own words, the “third term of Bush.”

Oh, and having a bracelet “too” does not make you the equivalent of Sen. McCain. Nor does frosting your hair make you look more mature.

I am a Democrat. Always will be. But this year I am voting for the guy that earned his grey hair, and knows whose bracelet he is wearing.